gph
3:21 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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In this "they" you talk about, you've got Khan, and you've got people who want him dead for his gay rights stance.
So, they're all the same, really...
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norwich hammer
3:11 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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So adverts on buses raising money for Islamic relief,it's just the start of them at some point in the next 10-20-30-40-50 Years totally taking over Europe,they keep themselves isolated from the main until they have the numbers to change things,little things at first but then it gets serious and then it's too late.
I've been to Bangladsh (east Pakistan) the biggest shithole on this planet,the people on a whole were great and treated us very well but they completely change in the western world and my argument s that,it's not compatible in the west .
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norwich hammer
3:00 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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Mashed.
Far more of a problem than the muzzies themselves tbh, the defining moment though will be when they as it's inevitable get shafted 😂
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Gavros
2:50 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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IT BEGINS!
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Gavros
2:50 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/slogans-praising-allah-displayed-british-7930303
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Nurse Ratched
2:10 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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I'm reserving judgment till I've seen his wiff-waff skills.
(Actually I've already made up my mind about him because he is a former human rights scumb...er, lawyer)
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mashed in maryland
2:06 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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I'll wait and see, Fifth. He's mayor now, democratically elected, so suppose we'll have to.
I hope he's great.
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Fifth Column
2:02 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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... because Sadiq's not about to outlaw drinking.
... actually Boris banned drinking on public transport... imagine Khan had done that...
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Fifth Column
2:01 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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mim
Honestly, that is complete fantasy. In terms of his actions he has never, ever done anything extremist, never voted for or proposed anything extreme. He was a human rights lawyer and thus defended people who were accused of unpalatable things. This doesn't make him an 'extremist'. I was speaking to the brief of someone on WHO a couple of days ago who apparently has represented several West Ham firm members against the Police. Does that make him a football hooligan or supporter of violence? No, he's a brief, that's what he does.
Based on your logic of political opportunism with Muslims, he'd be very anti-Israeli. He's not. Quite the opposite. He's very pro Israel. I don't believe he cares either way about IsraelPalestine but he recognises that it will win him more votes to be pro Israeli.
Your assumptions of "opportunism" are all framed around political opportunism to appease Muslim extremists. Based on his support of Israel and gay marriage, there is no logic at all to your assumptions. It IS complete fantasy.
Perhaps if 51% of the population were Muslim extremists then you'd have cause for concern but that's not the case so don't worry, relax, have a beer.
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mashed in maryland
1:39 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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riosleftsock 1:33 Mon May 9
I'd agree with all that and because of that I reckon if a time came where he saw potential gain from appealing to extremist nutters he'd be much more prepared to do it.
"Oh so you want a few streets in Tower Hamlets where alcohol is banned and local police must make leeway for your beliefs in sharia? No problem!
...PS I support gay marriage".
This is a worst case scenario obviously but the way things are going I don't think it's complete fantasy.
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mashed in maryland
1:35 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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Fifth
UK-Iran relations are not exactly fluffy and friendly. We can talk all day about the whys and hows but this is how it is.
Especially in the current climate why the fuck is he making statements like that to the national broadcaster of a country we have these sort of relations with?
If any MP said anything along those lines or even half as divisive to a Russian govt network they'd get crucified and I couldn't imagine in a million years they'd be allowed to run for mayor of our capital city.
I'll state again that personally that I don't have any issue with him cos of his religion per se. I shouldn't need to say that but as always in 2016 if you don't post this sort of disclaimer before or after a criticism you get called a neo-nazi.
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riosleftsock
1:33 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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Fifth Column 1:24 Mon May 9
Agree with all dat.
Khan is equally comfortable appearing down with the conservative religious groups, voting in favour of gay marriage or making stupid comments on Press TV. He doesn't see any conflict in his deeply held principles, because he doesn't any other than a conviction to win votes to gain power.
He is, like many politicians an opportunist and an egoist.
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Fifth Column
1:24 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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mim
I'm not trying to sweep that comment "under the carpet".
Government ministers often do resign for saying stupid things and go back to being backbenchers - that's true. MPs wouldn't resign from being an MP for doing something so minor though.
I don't like what he said in that interview, in my opinion is was "playing to the audience" - in this case the odious Press TV. To me, that demonstrates poor judgement and a wish to make his life easier in an interview. To conclude from that, that he is a bit of a duplicitous politician would be perfectly reasonable and I could understand if people didn't wish to vote for him based on that interview.
But to conclude such a comment means he is a conservative religious nutter isn't reasonable, in my opinion.
I believe he will be a far better "manager" as Mayor than any of his predecessors. However, he has little charisma and so as a "figurehead" won't be as good as either Boris or Ken who, love them or hate them, were both clear "leaders"... before Ken went mad.
Goldsmith on the other hand hadn't either charisma or experience of doing anything ever. His shambles of a campaign demonstrated his lack of ability to even be a competent politician. So on that basis I voted for Khan.
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Jam rock Ammer
1:16 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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tnb 1:02 Mon May 9
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mashed in maryland
1:04 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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Also tnb while you're here, just to recap...
It's not OK for people to have reservations with someone purely cos they're Muslim, but it's perfectly OK for people to support someone purely cos they're Muslim.
Is that how it works?
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tnb
1:02 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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Fifth Column 12:43 Mon May 9
Spot. Fucking. On.
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mashed in maryland
12:52 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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Maybe I should have worded it better Fifth. That's the sort of shit I reckon could happen. I hope it doesn't, and I'm pretty sure it won't to be fair.
The Uncle Toms comment should never be ignored or swept over, especially when he said it to the national broadcaster of Iran! If any other MP said this sort of thing about anyone to (for example) a Russian or Chinese TV network they'd get absolutely ripped apart. I understand he's apologised for it and all that bollocks but MPs are made to resign over much less all the time, which is something I don't really agree with but there ya go.
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Fifth Column
12:43 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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Mashed
You are conflating two issues. To go back to your two statements about expecting changes in blasphemy laws and immigration... you know that WHO is a very blunt site...
... there is NOTHING in Khan's history that would suggest he wants a blasphemy law. Quite the opposite. He has championed freedom of speech. The idea that he would want a blasphemy law is utter, utter bollocks. I honestly question why you would assume he would want a blasphemy law introduced except based on him being Muslim. What has he ever said about a blasphemy law? In voting for gay marriage and being victim of "fatwas" from extremists that condemn him for being a heretic do you think he demonstrated his propensity for supporting blasphemy laws? It's a totally illogical conclusion to reach.
You are probably right that he would speak out in favour of things like increased numbers of child refugees - that's true. But then so would most Labour politicians. That's not based on being a Muslim is it?
By all means question his judgement for the "uncle Tom" comment and others - but the idea that would mean he's somehow a secret ISIS supporter or conservative religious type is just madness. Did you see the video of his wife without he head covered and two teenage daughters in relatively short skirts walking to City Hall after election day? That's a sure sign of an extremist.
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The Kronic
12:19 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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eusebiovic 12:10
First accurate post on here. He's a Noo-Lab-Cunt.
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mashed in maryland
12:15 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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tnb 11:40 Mon May 9
I've posted about my reservations about him, and yes his religion does massively come into it, but it is not the sole reason in the sense of "OMG HE'S MUSLIM THEREFORE BAD". I can't speak for other people.
I also have absolutely no doubt that a lot of people voted for him purely based on his religion. Isn't that exactly what you're accusing "people" of doing on this thread?
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eusebiovic
12:10 Mon May 9
Re: A Muslim London Mayor
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Sadiq Khan is a neo-liberal Blairite
How anybody can be shitting their pants over nothing is beyond comprehension to me.
Pure ignorance
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